Wiccan is a blend of pre-Christian paganism and New Age earth worship. For the past two years, the wiccans at Ft. Hood Army base in Texas have practiced their faith with Army approval. Now they are stirring the ire of some national Christian leaders and Congressman Robert L. Barr (R-Ga.)
David L. Oringderff, Ph.D., founder of Sacred Well, was online to discuss the controversy. The Sacred Well is the sponsoring congregation of the coven at the center of the Ft. Hood controversy. Oringderff is co-author of the ''Overview and Guide for Wiccan in the Military'' Read the transcript below:
washingtonpost.com: Welcome to our live online discussion about the Wiccan controversy at Ft. Hood. Thank you for joining us Dr. Oringderff. To open, how would you describe the Ft. Hood controversy in the context of the religious choice debate in the military?
Actually, the controversy is an artificial on engendered by folks with their own agendas who believe that they have the right to define other people's religion and religious practices for them. There are procedures for accommodation of what are known as "minority faith groups" or groups that do not have chaplains of their own particular faith. The military does not "recognize" any particular religion, but the military recognized the right
of every individual to practice his or her particular religion in any lawful manner that he or she deems appropriate.
Cavalier, ND: Hi David. I was wondering if you held your current beliefs at the time you joined the military. I view Wiccan as being somewhat pacifistic and opposed to war and violence, though I may be wrong in my limited understanding. Is the Army, given the nature of its mission, a place for witches?
David Oringderff: Belief systems tend to develop and mature over time. I first entered the Army in 1968, my beliefs were similar but not clearly defined. The second time I entered active duty was in 1981, and my religious paradigm was much clearer. But Wicca is a dynamic and living religion-- my practices have evolved and continue to evolve over time. Regarding the pacifism question, and please bear in mind I speak only for myself. And I should say this up front, Wicca is a broad term for a category of religious practices, just as Christianity is. There are probably as many traditions in Wicca as there are denominations in Christianity. I am not a pacifist but I do abhor war and violence. The mission of the Army is to protect and defend the Constitution and the country. Though other pagans and Christians disagree, there is as much of a place in the Army for Wiccans as there is for Catholics or Baptists, Hindus or atheists. And here is another place that I tend to get myself in trouble as well from a variety of opposing sectors. On the one hand we have all of this talk about Spiritual Warriors and on the other hand Holy Wars and "taking back this country" or that country for a particular Deity. Frankly, my career spanned two wars and a half-dozen live fire exercises, and I didn't find a damn thing holy or spiritual about any of them. But the policy makers determined they were necessary, and as a soldier I had a duty.
Cheverly, Maryland: One question: why are congressmen and church leaders so eager to trample on the Bill of Rights? Has anyone thought of this?
David Oringderff: Church leaders, politicians and used car salesmen all have their own agendas. I usually prefer to deal with the latter because they are often more honest about their agendas. Most church leaders have their own evangelical missions (which is their right) and constitutional rights (or the rights of individual citizens) are irrelevant to those evangelical missions. Besides, it's in their own best interests to keep the numbers up and the tithes flowing. Politicians have to get re-elected, so they have to crusade whatever cause they perceive to be in that best interest (usually directly proportional to the campaign contribution of a particular special interest group), otherwise, they are in the unemployment office. It amuses me, however, that an elected official can delude himself (or herself) into thinking that by virtue of that position they are empowered to summarily suspend Constitutional guarantees to a given segment of the population. Please correct me if I am wrong, but I always believed that Congress had the authority to raise and Army but it was up to the Executive Branch to run it.
Washington, DC: I have to say I find your religion very strange. What kind of reactions do you get from people when they find out that you are a witch?
David Oringderff: Usually, they don't know I am Wiccan until after they know me very well anyway. By that time, it does not matter to them. We have no evangelical mission or call to witness to others, so I have no need to convert other people. My religion is to me very private and personal, much the same way as my relationship with my wife. And I guard that private aspect just as jealously.
Vienna, VA : David -leaders of the Texas army base seem to have no problems with your organization. Have practicing Wiccans there encountered any problems from other low level soldiers?
David Oringderff: Not to my knowledge, although they may have been isolated incidents. There will be barracks bickering over a lot of things, including religion, preferred brand of beer or sports team.
Reston, VA: It seems like this debate is similar to the question of gays in the military. You know you're going to be singled out and criticized for practicing what I think many would consider an alternative religion. Why would you subject yourself to such persecution? Why not practice Wiccan quietly to yourselves?
David Oringderff: Most practitioners are solitary. But this is more a function of psychology than religion. Introverted people tend to do things alone, extraverted people need to have the fellowship of others of like mind. There have been Wiccans/pagans/alternative faiths in the military from the beginning, as well as homosexuals. It's really hard for people to comprehend who have not been in a similar situation, but when your life depends on the person to your left and right, and their life depends on you, the only thing that matters is that you are all taking care of each other. Race, religion and sexual preference are matters in context is other than survival.
Houston, Texas: Given that conflict breeds conflict, how can, in your opinion, religious intolerance such as has been shown in recent weeks be effectively responded to?
David Oringderff: Very true statement. It was not our intent to start or maintain conflict. The group at Fort Hood had been meeting for over two years without any significant notice or problems. We try to avoid conflict and controversy, and frankly would prefer to be left alone. Unfortunately, we had no choice and were forced to respond to this. The only suggestion I have is that our responses be dignified and non-confrontational. We believe that everyone is entitled to believe and worship they way they choose. We don't claim to have the "one true way" but do not object to others who do. We just want the same courtesy, that is to be allowed to believe the way we choose.
Knoxville, Tenn: SIR,
I respect your right to believe whatever you desire, that is what makes this country great.
I too find your beliefs strange but interesting, from what I hear you say your sect's beliefs are constantly changing, how do you find peace and stability in that constant change, how do you state what you believe, or does everyone in the sect believe somewhat differently?
And finally is there sacrifice or physical destruction in your worship?
David Oringderff: As I mentioned earlier, there is great diversity in the faiths and practices that call themselves Wiccan. I can speak only for my organization and my tradition. Here are our Tenets:
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