Sworn testimony of Jason Scott

January 1994

(Beginning page 663 of court record : Jason Scott under oath on January 24, 1994.)

JASON ROBERT SCOTT,

Previously sworn, testified further as follows:

Direct Examination By Mr. Ranes:

Q Again, please state your name for the record.

A Jason Robert Scott

Q Jason, I would like to ask you some questions regarding some people and whether you know then. Do you know Gary Scarff?

A yes, I do.

Q And how long have you known him>

A I would say about a year and a half.

Q And where did you meet him?

A Oklahoma

Q Oklahoma City?

A Mm-hm (affirmative)

Q And that was the first time you met him correct?

A (Witness nods head affirmatively)

Q You have to answer out loud.

A Yes

Q In fact, when you went to Oklahoma City you went there for several days; correct?

A Mm-hm (Affirmative)

Q And where did you stay?

A I don't remember the motel.

Q Was it the Marriott motel?

A I don't remember.

Q And in fact, you shared the same room with Gary Scarff; didn't you?

A Yes.

Q And how did you get there?

A How did I get to the motel?

Q Yeah, How did you get to Oklahoma City?

MR. FULLER: Your honor, I object. I don't think that this part of it is relevant.

THE COURT: Objection is sustained.

Q (By Mr. Ranes continuing) How long did you share the same room with Garry Scarff?

A Four days.

Q And during that time did you have discussion with Garry Scarff regarding the facts of this case?

A Yes.

Q And, in fact, you told Garry Scarff over the next several days what had occurred between January 18^th and January 23^rd; didn't you?

A Yes.

Q And while you were there you also met with other individuals; correct?

A Yes.

Q Do you know a David Butterworth?

A Yes.

Q And how long have you known him?

A A year and a half.

Q Did you meet him in Oklahoma City as well?

A Yes.

Q What about Ann Loss (ph.)? Do you know her?

A Yes.

Q And did you meet her in Oklahoma City?

A Yes.

Q And Kathy Norman? Do you know her?

A Yes.

Q And where did you meet her?

A Oklahoma City.

Q What about Andrew Bagley?

A I don't remember him.

Q You don't remember meeting him in Oklahoma City?

A Hm-mm (negative)

Q What about George Robertson?

A Yes, I know him.

Q And how long have you known him?

A Almost three years.

Q So you knew him prior to going to Oklahoma City; didn't you?

A Yes.

Q And he was in Oklahoma City with you; wasn't he?

A Yes.

Q And what about Sue Taylor? Do you remember her?

A The name is familiar, yes.

Q You don't remember meeting her?

A Her face doesn't come to mind.

Q In fact, do you remember during the four days that you were at the Marriott, being in a room with all of those individuals at one time?

A Yes.

Q And isn't it true that several of those individuals were coaching you in regard to the testimony that you would give in this case.

A That's not true. No one has ever coached me on my testimony. My testimony has remained the same for three years.

Q Your testimony has remained the same for three years?

A Mm-hm (affirmative)

Q Did David Butterworth suggest to you that you needed to spice up your testimony?

A Not one - he didn't hint it one bit.

MR FULLER: Now, your Honor, I am going to object at this point. I don't think that question is relevant; the question that Mr. Ranes needs to lay for the foundation has already been asked.

THE COURT: Objection sustained.

Q (by Mr. Ranes, continuing) So, your testimony is that none of the advised that I mentioned to you ever coached you during the time you were in the Marriott Hotel, in Oklahoma City?

A That is true.

Q I would like to ask you some questions regarding a trip on the way back from McMinneville, Oregon.

MR FULLER: Now, your Honor, I do object to that. I think this is beyond the scope of what we talked about.

THE COURT: One moment, please. Can you refer to me a paragraph number?

MR. RANES: Yes, your Honor, I'm referring to Paragraph 24 and 25.

THE COURT: The objection is sustained.

MR. FULLER: I'm sorry your Honor? That was sustained?

THE COURT: Yes.

MR. RANES: No further questions of this witness.

THE COURT: You may step down.

THE WITNESS: Thank you.

MR. RANES: I would like to call Garry Scarff to the stand.